We should just be paving the way for the necessary social safety net so they don't have to work and won't starve.
Not throw the baby out with the bath
water. Who WANTS to have to work!?
"Don't invent the replicator because nobody will have to make tea. "
caidan 35 minutes ago [-]
Because to feel useful, to have pride in your accomplishments, to rest well at night knowing you did a good days work feeds the soul. To have all human work matter no more than a zoo enrichment program would be the death knell of a sentient species.
rahuljha0403 3 hours ago [-]
Those who can do something about it, they won't do anything as it's a power/money game for them. Those who care about it, they can barely do anything.
So, just prepare by saving money, investing and upskilling just to keep your brain sharp to figure it out when that future hits all of us.
loveparade 2 hours ago [-]
I'm more worried about TikTok than AI when it comes to future generations.
nyxtom 1 hours ago [-]
This ^
Aozora7 2 hours ago [-]
I find it unlikely that governments will just let majority of people starve to death. Both due to unrest and because someone has be able to buy stuff for the economy to function. UBI seems inevitable to me.
But also, I'm an antinatalist for unrelated reasons so would not have children either way.
password54321 2 hours ago [-]
Many young people already can't afford houses and are in a terrible job market. The ladder got pulled from them a while ago and would love a revolution. Look at the people they idolise, it is either Elon (usually guys) or Mamdani. They want change.
riffraff 6 hours ago [-]
Mildly worried.
But I think most of what is useful today to teach children (to be independent, persistent, empathetic, thoughtful, etc) will still be useful in whatever future we end up in. I think even skills that may be obsolete will probably be good for training their brain, like, perhaps speaking more languages won't help because we'll all have star-trek-like communicators, but the mental flexibility won't be wasted.
I'm not sure what will happen with higher studies, my kids are small. Maybe they'll study something and by the end of university there won't be a job market for it. But that could always happen, and some paths always had more career opportunities or less.
Beyond education, I try to save some money (invest in some global index fund) and hopefully that will help. I was always going to do that anyway, it just feels a bit more necessary now.
rahuljha0403 3 hours ago [-]
Agree, even if AI does most of the things, we can't stop learning, otherwise our mind will become totally dependant on machines even for processing.
p0w3n3d 1 hours ago [-]
AI will be used for total surveillance in the first place. So totalitarian governments, welcome on in
speedgoose 3 hours ago [-]
I wouldn’t mind a society in which I don’t have to work to live happily and comfortably.
Kim_Bruning 1 hours ago [-]
This is a perennial question
Scenario 1:
The future technology will be capable of handling much of current work, but we'll invent new forms of work, with more stress and higher salaries.
Salaries for people in professions that couldn't be replaced will also go up to match, making bespoke work even more expensive.
Scenario 2:
We let machines do all the work and declare a communist utopia.
(Bonus: we give them names that are low in gravitas)
So far, scenario 2 hasn't happened yet, but you never know.
Lio 5 hours ago [-]
It’s just another “don’t look up” issue.
We’ve known about global warming for years and ignored it. People know and still buy bigger cars every year.
Pick up trucks are so huge now you can’t see the child you’re about to run over and they sell like hot cakes.
In surveys truck owners say they only care about occupant safety. They know about the issue for pedestrians, they just don’t care.
Same with shifting industrial production and jobs to China. We know these things are problems for the next generation. When it comes to purchases people don’t care.
Why would AI be any different?
snthpy 3 hours ago [-]
Yup, like the Easter Islanders, what were they thinking when they cut down the last tree?
dyauspitr 5 hours ago [-]
If everyone’s out of a job, the world will figure it out
notTooFarGone 5 hours ago [-]
Ah yea, everyone will suddenly see their socialist side and all will be well...
interstice 3 hours ago [-]
Wouldn't it be ironic if AI is the best way to manage a socialist society and they start building it on their own.
dyauspitr 5 hours ago [-]
Maybe they will maybe they won’t but the solution definitely isn’t trying to block something inevitable and frankly exciting.
GreenLightGo 3 hours ago [-]
The wealthy owners of tech companies and other businesses will keep maximizing profits, just as capitalism demands. I think my kids will be learning skilled trades instead. AI will never replace builders or electricians.
euroderf 2 hours ago [-]
It will be like Zardoz.
throw310822 3 hours ago [-]
a) it's not twenty years from now, it's much less than that.
b) you cannot prevent that future, because the incentives are huge and enforcement is extremely hard, at all levels, from the superpowers to the individuals.
c) besides, imagine a world where most jobs are still being done by paid humans, all knowing that their work could be done much better and cheaper by a machine. Basically a world where your daily labour isn't really necessary but just a proof-of-work to get a monthly salary. Isn't that awful? I would rather take a pay cut on my last salary and use my time in a different way.
d) how will they make ends meet? Nobody knows. It might be a combination of everything being much cheaper and/or heavily subsidized, and some form of basic income.
kotaKat 32 minutes ago [-]
I'm not worried, because the kids keep getting more handouts up front than our generation(s).
Remember, young adults - student loan relief was socialism as we hand out hundreds and thousands of Trump Accounts across the nation for the same thing to the next generation.
cyanydeez 1 hours ago [-]
anyone who looks at the growing fascism in American and across the world isn't worried about "AI"
such a weird self centered bullshit.
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We should just be paving the way for the necessary social safety net so they don't have to work and won't starve.
Not throw the baby out with the bath water. Who WANTS to have to work!?
So, just prepare by saving money, investing and upskilling just to keep your brain sharp to figure it out when that future hits all of us.
But also, I'm an antinatalist for unrelated reasons so would not have children either way.
But I think most of what is useful today to teach children (to be independent, persistent, empathetic, thoughtful, etc) will still be useful in whatever future we end up in. I think even skills that may be obsolete will probably be good for training their brain, like, perhaps speaking more languages won't help because we'll all have star-trek-like communicators, but the mental flexibility won't be wasted.
I'm not sure what will happen with higher studies, my kids are small. Maybe they'll study something and by the end of university there won't be a job market for it. But that could always happen, and some paths always had more career opportunities or less.
Beyond education, I try to save some money (invest in some global index fund) and hopefully that will help. I was always going to do that anyway, it just feels a bit more necessary now.
Scenario 1:
The future technology will be capable of handling much of current work, but we'll invent new forms of work, with more stress and higher salaries.
Salaries for people in professions that couldn't be replaced will also go up to match, making bespoke work even more expensive.
Scenario 2:
We let machines do all the work and declare a communist utopia. (Bonus: we give them names that are low in gravitas)
So far, scenario 2 hasn't happened yet, but you never know.
We’ve known about global warming for years and ignored it. People know and still buy bigger cars every year.
Pick up trucks are so huge now you can’t see the child you’re about to run over and they sell like hot cakes.
In surveys truck owners say they only care about occupant safety. They know about the issue for pedestrians, they just don’t care.
Same with shifting industrial production and jobs to China. We know these things are problems for the next generation. When it comes to purchases people don’t care.
Why would AI be any different?
b) you cannot prevent that future, because the incentives are huge and enforcement is extremely hard, at all levels, from the superpowers to the individuals.
c) besides, imagine a world where most jobs are still being done by paid humans, all knowing that their work could be done much better and cheaper by a machine. Basically a world where your daily labour isn't really necessary but just a proof-of-work to get a monthly salary. Isn't that awful? I would rather take a pay cut on my last salary and use my time in a different way.
d) how will they make ends meet? Nobody knows. It might be a combination of everything being much cheaper and/or heavily subsidized, and some form of basic income.
Remember, young adults - student loan relief was socialism as we hand out hundreds and thousands of Trump Accounts across the nation for the same thing to the next generation.
such a weird self centered bullshit.